(no subject)

I've been reading some of the articles by people who want to defend marriage from encroachment by people who are gay or polyamorous, in honor of Defense of Marriage Week. One such article ends:

If we cannot stand and defend this ground, then face it: The marriage debate is over. Dan Quayle was wrong. We lost.

Setting aside partisan lines: how desperate does your position have to be for you to invoke Dan Quayle as a source of intelligence and authority?

(no subject)

I know I hardly ever update as it is, and I know I oughtn't use this as a political blog, but the news that the Catholic Church is outright lying saddens and disgusts me. Theological doctrine is one thing, but shrugging off scentific proof with the line "They are wrong about that... this is an easily recognisable fact" and proceeding to spread false and life-threatening information is so morally repugnant that I am not certain I have any respect at all left for the Catholic Church.