A lovely contrast
Oct. 24th, 2003 01:40 amBy and large I suspect that people's eyes glaze over when I talk about linguistics, but the following contrast (adapted from Bolinger's 1970-something paper) is so sharp, and so lovely, that I feel it must be shared.
leighjen, my partner, as many of you may know, is a regular Girl Scout: she's polite, law-abiding, she doesn't forget things, she fulfills obligations. And many of you know that I'm, well, a little more haphazard, and a little klutzy.
So imagine that we're supposed to be taking a couple of boxes of props to the theatre, and while she's taking hers inside and putting it exactly where it belongs, I end up getting lost, tripping, spilling the props everywhere, losing half of them and ruining the other half.
Now: what does each of the following sentences express?
Isn't that cool? (In case you're not a native speaker of English: the first sentence means that the director yelled at Leighjen; the second means that he yelled at me.)
(And relevant to some current research: setting aside a reading where the director is interested in meeting someone, and instead concentrating on the reading where the director wants information:
I now have a good pair of sentences to pull out at cocktail parties when people ask, "So what is it exactly that you're working on?"
So imagine that we're supposed to be taking a couple of boxes of props to the theatre, and while she's taking hers inside and putting it exactly where it belongs, I end up getting lost, tripping, spilling the props everywhere, losing half of them and ruining the other half.
Now: what does each of the following sentences express?
- When he found out some props had been ruined, the director yelled at the responsible person.
- When he found out some props had been ruined, the director yelled at the person responsible.
Isn't that cool? (In case you're not a native speaker of English: the first sentence means that the director yelled at Leighjen; the second means that he yelled at me.)
(And relevant to some current research: setting aside a reading where the director is interested in meeting someone, and instead concentrating on the reading where the director wants information:
- GOOD: The director wanted to know the person responsible (so the stage manager told him it was me).
- BAD: The director wanted to know the responsible person (so the stage manager told him it was Leighjen).
I now have a good pair of sentences to pull out at cocktail parties when people ask, "So what is it exactly that you're working on?"
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Date: 2003-10-24 08:52 am (UTC)K has been getting on my case for sloppy word usage recently. Do you have any idea how irritating it is to have one's semantics corrected by a seven year old?
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Date: 2003-10-24 06:39 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2003-10-24 09:10 am (UTC)Ah, word games
Date: 2003-10-24 09:33 am (UTC)Orphan.
Frequently?
Frequently what?
Often?
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Date: 2003-10-24 09:55 am (UTC)I'd say the first sentence is ambiguous - it could mean he yelled at either of you. (If it were spoken it would probably be clear by inflection, - "the RESPONSIBLE person" is clearly her; "the reSPONsible PERson" is clearly you; other possibilities are still ambiguous.) But the latter is very clear that he yelled at you.
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Date: 2003-10-24 07:34 pm (UTC)The invisible stars visible include Spica. (No good: it means that Spica is a star that can be seen tonight, but it can't be seen from earth.)
The visible stars invisible include Spica. (Fine: it means that Spica can't be seen, but it's a visible star.)
The visible invisible stars include Spica. (No good.)
The invisible visible stars include Spica. (Fine.)
Basically, the adjective close to the noun is a permanent-state adjective, and an adjective after a noun is never close enough to a noun to qualify. So there is ambiguity, and it is possible to disambiguate, but we start to get into subtleties and you lose the really cool sharp contrast.
Anyway. :-)